What do you think are gay tactics in ZC?

[moosums]

What do you guys think is gay that a team or an individual can do in SC?

Here's what I think:

#1 Bomb with no toss on the opponents team
#2 MM rush (I don't mind it but it's kind of boring, everyone can do it from time to time, If you want to win by mm rush, just go 3 zerg and fucking all hydras)
#3 Going MASS HATCH so nobody else get's larva (It's not about zerg being weak it's about you not wanting your opponent to get units)
#4 Tripling (get some skill)
#5 Mass reavers ( preventing zerg from getting larva)

[Agnostic]

Assfucking is pretty gay.

[Azian]

I agree..

[dAilydoSe]

Sketchy is as Sketchy does.

[«Canadian»]

wat about scratchy? its as scratchy does too?

[dAilydoSe]

Of course.

[AgEnT]

hmmmmm why is it gay to mutas bomb when there is no toss......? theres othere effective methods to stop muta bombs..

[dAilydoSe]

I agree with u preed. But i wanna here what u think other effective ways to stop bombs with no toss are. List plz.

[thatscrazy]

agnostic said:

Assfucking is pretty gay.

LOL

But anyways, the things I consider cheap/gay are:
1. Tripling
2. MM rush (Moose said it well, it just makes for a waste of 9 minutes of building).
3. EXCESSIVE bombing... there are spots in a game where I think bombing is fine... but some people take it overboard (see pimpz28).
4. Shuttle drops on a Terran -- I'm sure this one is controversial, but really you can't EMP them, and MM is so fast these days that its tough to get alot of Turrets up, so if you don't have your wraiths there, these can really fuck your money up, with VERY little risk/cost to the Protoss player doing it...

[Agnostic]

Maybe irradiate by mm lol...but thats sacrificing emp... I dunno, youd have to build spores on terran main, maybe have queens snare down those mutas...but toss is BY FAR the most effective bomb stopper...or anything stopper really.

[moosums]

Dude, I don't care how many wraiths you have, I single handidly took out 3 mains when top had 2 terran while bombing + 1 side hatch. so yah, it's not so easy to stop

[Bell]

MM Rush could be a waste of a good game but other than that, anything goes. With all the other strategies you guys are complaining about, you should have thought of it before they did!! You guys trying to bring the completely ridiculous "rules of war" into a video game.

[«Canadian»]

yes!, fucking all these new rules and shit.
Im not rming anymore if the races are "unfair" anymore, and i havent in awhile, even when most of the time its my team who's got the shit races. Its retarded, years ago we never used to do that BS. Its time we stop being pussies and play the game.

[Agnostic]

Yea its like that Board Game...Risk.

[Bell]

Wow Mike you said exactly what I was thinking. Just didnt want to say it out loud. I know I havent played a lot of games with you guys but everytime I did, if the races werent equal it was always an auto-rm. I always hated that and thats some of the reason's why I did not play with you guys as much. I know you remember a time when it wasnt like that and rarely did you hear ppl complaining about unfair races. If you lost, you lost...thats it.

Part of the fun of random races is that it brings out many more opportunities for interesting/desperate strategies. When you play the same races, its always the same crap each game. I actually think that UMS really sucks. When random, I enjoy being on the team thats at a race dis-advantage. It makes you dig really deep to try and pull off a win and when you do, its that much sweeter.

So get off your soapboxes, grow up and start playing this game the way it was meant to be played!

[moosums]

It's a video game, stop taking it so seriously, I guess the rm thing is a good complaint though. but it's for fun, and if only winning is fun for you, go ahead and do what you want to win, you know? I use to, I mm rushed like every game but, I got bored of SC

[Agnostic]

Well, I don't think there should be rules, but I also do not think there is a way that SC is MEANT TO BE PLAYED...That's just bullshit.

It all comes down to the whole phrase:
Whatever blows your hair back
Whatever floats your boat
To each their own
Different strokes for different folks

And I'm sure many others.

Neither of you extreme stances piss me off, but I'm gonna outline it for ya.

It really comes down to whos progressive.

If you want to play starcraft the same old way forever, you're going to get bored and quit!! HAHA!

If you want to set rules and limits? Well, some people won't agree with your rules, and when they're around you're going to have to play like the cavemen. (There are still people who will only play non-money, I bet they say to those money-mappers (OMFG Stop changing SC))

But really, its like censorship...if it bothers you, fuckin don't play.

I personally like random races...(I mean when else does terran get to drop and do crazy shit unless there's two t)
But I also like ptz v ptz...or pzp v pzp...or ptp v ptp.

I think when you have a half dozen high caliber players, evening the teams out (Same races for each) really makes the game that much more fun.

And once again, its a video game, therefore you can bring in rules of war...and not be shot. If it was serious, then yes, by all means total war. But it really isn't, so chill out, experiment with some rules. Toss the ones you don't like. If someone like tC (Wrote the Neo-Starcraft ZC Rule book ;D;D ;D ;D ;D) sets some rules before the game...

Try exercising some respect and following his rules, if you disagree...raise an objection and maybe, just maybe he will be civil and agree to drop that rule for the present game.

As far as competitive games like evw, there better be rules or people will be pissed.

All games (even rugby) have rules, and its been beat into the ground that this is a game. Just act like it is, and stop making it "war" lol.

[dAilydoSe]

I read half of it and got bored. to much thought. Just play nigs

[thatscrazy]

rezcanadian said:

yes!, fucking all these new rules and shit.
Im not rming anymore if the races are "unfair" anymore, and i havent in awhile, even when most of the time its my team who's got the shit races. Its retarded, years ago we never used to do that BS. Its time we stop being pussies and play the game.

Sigh... thats hardly the point Canadian, and everyone else who thinks that. We don't rm races cuz we're "pussies", it's because we don't want to waste an hour of our time in a tzz ppt while the ppt recalls the living fuck out of us. Or in the same manner, while we recall the hell out of zzt, which is almost the equivalent of picking a fight with an 8-year-old. How about wasting 30 minutes of a completely uncompetitive zpz v ttp, which is EXTREMELY fun for the middle Toss, believe me. And I guess you don't mind playing those type of games, but to me, they're a waste of time... and very rarely are they fun... so I don't see the point.

However, that being said, we've been rarely RMing cuz of races lately too... and also im sick of PTZ PTZ games all the time, for sure.

Anyhow, the "rules" ppl make in ZC aren't cuz they're "scared", its a video game for god's sake... the point is just to make the games FUNNER for everyone, I don't really see much wrong with that. Just like nrMM is funner for us than ZC no rules... nrMM is a RULE, no?

[moosums]

See, I don't like rming no more, cause I actually like to try disadvantaged races. Although, I always get the bad races anyways, but sometimes having bad races and being up against a beter team (WICH HAPPENS ALOT AS WELL) really deserves a rm, cause I guess the other team will have fun kicking my ass but not as much fun kicking my ass if they had more of a challenge doing it. But hey guys, if all you want to do is win, BOMB, MM RUSH, TRIPLE, do what ever it takes, see how long the fun will last, take it from experience, you'll get bore really fast.